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07-30-2024, 01:54 PM
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Re: The AI cheats in the 2nd Half
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Originally Posted by canes21
Last game I played before bed last night I was down 34-17 at the half with 3 turnovers.
I won 48-41 in OT. I can't stand the cheating CPU.
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This right here lol. Most only talk about cheating when cpu comes back but never mention cheating when the user comes back.
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07-30-2024, 02:58 PM
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Re: The AI cheats in the 2nd Half
Ive noticed composure plays a massive role in this game. If you feel like the AI is cheating then try and get some momentum/composure rolling with some short completions
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07-30-2024, 03:34 PM
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Re: The AI cheats in the 2nd Half
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Having an offensive or defensive coordinator in the booth keep track of how the opposing offense and defense is playing against you and suggesting play calls in anticipation of the opponents counterpunches would actually be a useful and authentic gameplay function to have in any football game.
Even something as simple as charting run and pass calls from different personnel groups and configurations would be a great thing to have.
This is a fantastic suggestion, and I would love to have that data available. It would be so helpful!
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This right here lol. Most only talk about cheating when cpu comes back but never mention cheating when the user comes back.
I don't think there is such a thing as "cheating" per se, but I sort of object to calling what the computer does as "AI". Technical objection, obviously, but I don't think there's any actual "AI", as I understand the term, being used in the game. That would be really cool if eventually we get there, but at present, I don't believe any sports game is really using any AI model to play the game against you.
07-30-2024, 04:37 PM
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Re: The AI cheats in the 2nd Half
I can't wait to see the M25 boards if folks are claiming the AI is "cheating" in this game, that game should be brutal as the pro game SHOULD be more difficult.
I certainly hope the AI adjustments are MORE in play in M25, as I love nothing more than scheming against and working my tail off to beat a really good defense.
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Ive noticed composure plays a massive role in this game. If you feel like the AI is cheating then try and get some momentum/composure rolling with some short completions
This is a good point, and I still forget to really take a look at this in game.
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07-30-2024, 05:13 PM
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Re: The AI cheats in the 2nd Half
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I can't wait to see the M25 boards if folks are claiming the AI is "cheating" in this game, that game should be brutal as the pro game SHOULD be more difficult.
I certainly hope the AI adjustments are MORE in play in M25, as I love nothing more than scheming against and working my tail off to beat a really good defense.
Don't know about 25 at all but Madden 24 was easier. I'd have bad games and win by 35 points. So far my good games are within 14 point spreads unless I'm playing a far inferior opponent. When I'm just playing OK the game is tight throughout and when I'm playing bad I'm get t ng my tail kicked.
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07-30-2024, 09:41 PM
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Re: The AI cheats in the 2nd Half
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This ridiculous and tired assertion has never been true about any AAA simulation sports game developed by EA Sports or otherwise.
This lazy trolling is not welcome on OS. Take it elsewhere.
Well it's true, so...
User input matters, but explain how certain games will play out the exact same way, no matter how many times you play them.
I've tested this in this game. Season opener on the road against a far overmatched opponent...player through it multiple times, and the COU was lights out for 3 quarters every time, and always had the lead and forced a bunch of fumbles to stop scoring drives.
4th quarter comes, and they can't cover for ****, and suddenly my team is in blanket coverage every play until game is tied.
Then suddenly, CPU can play lights out on both sides of the ball again.
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07-30-2024, 10:04 PM
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Re: The AI cheats in the 2nd Half
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Ive noticed how all of my turnovers seem to happen in the 3Q. You can call it halftime adjustments if you want but the AI on Heisman literally reads your play perfectly in the 2nd half of games. It will jump routes with guys that are in man with their backs turned. Its seriously game breaking. Im all for a challenge but dont cheese me CPU or Ill just resort to having to cheese play you back.
EA put effort into this game but unfortunately its a polished Madden at the moment.
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